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De  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
De


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Is anyone going?  Been there? Have any suggestions on what not to miss?
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PLT  
#2 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
PLT


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Nice article in last Sunday's NY Times about the medina in Fez:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/27/travel/inside-the-walls-of-fez.html?_r=0le (I'm scheduled to leave for Morocco 3/29/14!)
LuvToTravelWorld  
#3 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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I've been to Morocco, it's a male dominated society, so dress appropriately or you will be hooted at the entire time.  I love the architecture and the hotels with the open courtyards.  Food great.
Sharon ~ Florida, USA
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De  
#4 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
De


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Thanks for the NY article and the advice.
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De  
#5 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
De


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PLT-Be sure to post when you are back with any advice, "don't miss this" tips, etc.  Thanks.
De
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littlera  
#6 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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PLT, the medina in Fez remains one of our most vivid travel memories.  It is an extremely exotic experience.   There are so many vendors, and you can really see life play out here as most of the people who work in there live in there too.  We were told some people have never ventured beyond the walls of this essentially self-contained city. 

We bought a wool rug at a rug dealer in the medina.  It turns out it has been a very high quality item.  I think we got a good buy.  The Moroccans make some beautiful patterns, and quality seems to be on par with the Turks.
Randy and Deanie
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De  
#7 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Thanks. It is always good to hear from someone new on "don't miss" this items.
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PLT  
#8 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
PLT


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Littlera - Looking very forward to Morocco...I've been lucky to have visited Khan Al-Khalili in Cario, the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul (where I got lost!), and Jerusalem's Old City. Give me any local market, and I'm a happy traveler!
littlera  
#9 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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PLT, we too have visited the Khan Al-Khalili in Cairo and the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul, both on multiple occasions, so I have a sense of comparison.  First, the Fez Medina is huge - close to one mile square.   This puts it much larger than the Egyptian and Turkish sites.  Like the Khan Al-Khalili, most of the shop keepers live near or above their stalls.   I don't think many, if any, live in the Grand Bazaar itself.

While the Grand Bazaar is decidedly upscale in many places, and is very clean, the Medina is just the opposite.  Even the Khan Al-Khalili is much cleaner.  With the butcher shops and burrows traveling through this maze, you may occasionally encounter unpleasant smells.  It's not real bad, however.  The Medina is definitely more exotic than the others, and is therefore more interesting on many levels.  Some places are open to the sky, while others have buildings that are above the cobblestone pathway.

Don't lose contact with your group.  It will be very hard to find your way out if you do!   This place dates from the 9th century, and the paths are winding, narrow (less than 10 feet in most places), and go in no particular direction.  It truly is a maze - opposite from the more or less orderly Grand Bazaar layout.

Wear good walking shoes, and watch your step on the rough, sometimes slick cobblestones.  Not the place for any open sandals.

You will be dismayed at the grossly overloaded little burrows carrying finished goods and raw materials into and out of this place.  This has drawn the ire of many international animal rights activist groups.  Sad - but this is the way it has been done for over 1000 years, and is unlikely to change in the near future.  The streets are too narrow to do it any other way I guess.

We are going to tour Israel/Jordan next May.  Any suggestions of what to see or buy in the Jerusalem Old City area?
Randy and Deanie
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PLT  
#10 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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For the best view of the Old City, my recommendation is always the Evangelical Lutheran Church of the Redeemer. (An extra plus, is that just across the street from it is a little restaurant where you can get fabulous shewarma & falafel.) If you climb the 177 tiny, spiral steps to the top of the church bell tower, you get the most perfect view! One of my shots is attached.
  Make sure that you go to "Petra at night"  if it's offered when you are there. It wasn't an optional through Gate 1 when I went - I had just read about it online, and was the only one of our tour group that went. It was beautiful! (I did not take the attached pic of Petra.)
  Thanks for your thoughts on Morocco - I've learned a lot from other travelers that have made my adventures so much better!4110a148-108d-4b00-bcfd-a8b4c12ee3b0.JPGf89e3140-b4cc-480d-ac1d-be0b9e74a918.jpg4110a148-108d-4b00-bcfd-a8b4c12ee3b0.JPGf89e3140-b4cc-480d-ac1d-be0b9e74a918.jpg
littlera  
#11 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2013 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Thanks, PLT.  I had already checked into the Petra By Night experience after reading another earlier post (yours, if I remember correctly,)  and unless things change, we will not be able to go.  I don't recall the nights it is offered, but upon checking the nights we will be staying in Petra are the nights it is NOT offered.  I was disappointed.

Thanks for the tip on getting the great photo of the Dome, and for the good food recommendation.  I love that type food.  The shewarma is a lot like the gyro we had near the Acropolis in Athens.  Tasty!
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Dahlia  
#12 Posted : Friday, March 21, 2014 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Loved the article, thanks, put it on my IPhone so that I might check it when i am there, leaving April 9, 2014, if you have any tips when coming back please let me know, thanks.
I am leaving April 9, 2014 for the 13 days trip to Morocco, any one on this trip please contact me, thanks
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